Comments on: A turnover crisis? Some historical perspective http://celticshub.com/2009/03/16/a-turnover-crisis-some-historical-perspective/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:22:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Today’s Links 3/17 at New England Sports 24/7 http://celticshub.com/2009/03/16/a-turnover-crisis-some-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-399 Today’s Links 3/17 at New England Sports 24/7 Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:15:32 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=839#comment-399 [...] March went mad:  interview with Seth Davis RSO KG’s new Gatorade commercial CelticsHub A turnover crisis? Some historical perspective Celts turn over worst performance of the year SportsNetwork Bulls welcome Celtics to the second [...] [...] March went mad:  interview with Seth Davis RSO KG’s new Gatorade commercial CelticsHub A turnover crisis? Some historical perspective Celts turn over worst performance of the year SportsNetwork Bulls welcome Celtics to the second [...]

]]> By: Zach Lowe http://celticshub.com/2009/03/16/a-turnover-crisis-some-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-404 Zach Lowe Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:46:43 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=839#comment-404 @ Mike--I guessed it was team turnovers being left out at one site, but I didn't want to get too bogged down in the numbers. And yes, the 15 TO boundary is too kind to the C's. I tried it with 15.5 and they still make the list. I didn't try it at 16 for some reason--maybe an inability to stomach the results? Or admit that the C's may crack the 16 mark before all 82 are done? @ Mike–I guessed it was team turnovers being left out at one site, but I didn't want to get too bogged down in the numbers. And yes, the 15 TO boundary is too kind to the C's. I tried it with 15.5 and they still make the list. I didn't try it at 16 for some reason–maybe an inability to stomach the results? Or admit that the C's may crack the 16 mark before all 82 are done?

]]> By: Mike Curry http://celticshub.com/2009/03/16/a-turnover-crisis-some-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-398 Mike Curry Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:48:57 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=839#comment-398 It appears that the Yahoo! team stats just total up the individual player stats. And thanks to the existence of team turnovers, and the fact that the player per game stats are rounded, that number is unlikely to be accurate. NBA.com has the Celts at 15.95 TOs per game. I'm pretty sure that's more accurate. With that in mind, it would seem that by limiting your list to teams with only 15 turnovers, you are giving this year's Celtics team too much leeway. A turnover a game is significant, and if your run your search with 1307 turnovers or more (the pace the Celtics are actually on), you find that there is not one Championship team in that list. It appears that the Yahoo! team stats just total up the individual player stats. And thanks to the existence of team turnovers, and the fact that the player per game stats are rounded, that number is unlikely to be accurate.

NBA.com has the Celts at 15.95 TOs per game. I'm pretty sure that's more accurate.

With that in mind, it would seem that by limiting your list to teams with only 15 turnovers, you are giving this year's Celtics team too much leeway. A turnover a game is significant, and if your run your search with 1307 turnovers or more (the pace the Celtics are actually on), you find that there is not one Championship team in that list.

]]> By: NBA News, Rumors, and Player Updates | Empty the Bench http://celticshub.com/2009/03/16/a-turnover-crisis-some-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-392 NBA News, Rumors, and Player Updates | Empty the Bench Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:26:34 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=839#comment-392 [...] basketball player too. - 3 Shades of Blue - The Grizzlies can’t beat bad teams at home. - Celtics Hub - Turnovers are proving to be Boston’s Achilles heel. - Truth About It - Caron Butler: too [...] [...] basketball player too. – 3 Shades of Blue – The Grizzlies can’t beat bad teams at home. – Celtics Hub – Turnovers are proving to be Boston’s Achilles heel. – Truth About It – Caron Butler: too [...]

]]> By: Dave http://celticshub.com/2009/03/16/a-turnover-crisis-some-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Dave Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:44:54 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=839#comment-394 Terrific article. I was really interested to see who the former Championship teams where with this type of turnovers problems -- guessed San An and Detroit but missed a bunch of the other contenders. The turnovers are definitely a weakness for Boston, but I don't it's a fatal flaw. It'll only become that if other things go wrong -- like say, another Ray Allen scoring drought in the playoffs. Terrific article. I was really interested to see who the former Championship teams where with this type of turnovers problems — guessed San An and Detroit but missed a bunch of the other contenders.

The turnovers are definitely a weakness for Boston, but I don't it's a fatal flaw. It'll only become that if other things go wrong — like say, another Ray Allen scoring drought in the playoffs.

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