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	<title>Comments on: Sheed: Please Don&#8217;t Be a Carlos Baerga</title>
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		<title>By: thomas whigham</title>
		<link>http://celticshub.com/2009/07/06/sheed-please-dont-be-a-carlos-baerga/comment-page-1/#comment-4909</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas whigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach i was talking to someone from the comments section, specifically: Orlando just DOWNGRADED from a (just turned) 30 year old Turkoglu to a 32 year old Vince Carter (who has definitely lost a few steps since his ultimate ‘prime’). How are Celtics fans supposed to fear Orlando and/or Cleveland... basically the presumption of invincibility.  I think Boston has depth that is scary, and can rest the big three, especially if you sign Hill to spell Pierce.  But not being afraid of VC is I think incongruous with the fact he&#039;s a top 5-6 SG in the league.  I usually pop over here and read the blogs, thanks for the input guys :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach i was talking to someone from the comments section, specifically: Orlando just DOWNGRADED from a (just turned) 30 year old Turkoglu to a 32 year old Vince Carter (who has definitely lost a few steps since his ultimate ‘prime’). How are Celtics fans supposed to fear Orlando and/or Cleveland&#8230; basically the presumption of invincibility.  I think Boston has depth that is scary, and can rest the big three, especially if you sign Hill to spell Pierce.  But not being afraid of VC is I think incongruous with the fact he&#8217;s a top 5-6 SG in the league.  I usually pop over here and read the blogs, thanks for the input guys <img src='http://celticshub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Lakers fan I am terrified of these new look Celtics. I was already terrified of the old look Celtics. All I know is this last June could ended a lot differently if KG didn&#039;t hurt his knee in Utah earlier this year, and this signing gives the Celtics another versatile, skilled, defensive big man and a frontline that will torment all other NBA frontlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Lakers fan I am terrified of these new look Celtics. I was already terrified of the old look Celtics. All I know is this last June could ended a lot differently if KG didn&#8217;t hurt his knee in Utah earlier this year, and this signing gives the Celtics another versatile, skilled, defensive big man and a frontline that will torment all other NBA frontlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on a side note, for all my love for the guy, I don&#039;t recommend taking Rasheed Wallace in the top 100 of your fantasty draft!

Rondo on the other hand will be 2nd round worthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on a side note, for all my love for the guy, I don&#8217;t recommend taking Rasheed Wallace in the top 100 of your fantasty draft!</p>
<p>Rondo on the other hand will be 2nd round worthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Barnes!  Matt Barnes!  I really think he would complete the picture  so long as Pruitt can sufficently bakup Rondo.  All the talk two years ago was uncertainty about starting a sophmore PG with the Big3.  Well that went... um... pretty OK, not bad, maybe it worked (oh wait, won NBA title).   Now with the (awesome and great fit) addition of Sheed, all we need is a 3rd year backup point guard to step up and sign a Posey replacement/upgrade (Barnes).  I hope Baby is back, I would really miss him, but if forced to choose, I&#039;d go with Barnes.  Still not 100% sure how to guard Rashard Lewis, but I think KG will figure it out :)  Can&#039;t overlook Lebron, but if it didn&#039;t work out this year and I don&#039;t see it workin next year just because you went out and got Shaq (see PHX 1st round exit 2008, no playoffs 2009).  Lebron IS NOT staying in Cleveland, and they should trade him even though they won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Barnes!  Matt Barnes!  I really think he would complete the picture  so long as Pruitt can sufficently bakup Rondo.  All the talk two years ago was uncertainty about starting a sophmore PG with the Big3.  Well that went&#8230; um&#8230; pretty OK, not bad, maybe it worked (oh wait, won NBA title).   Now with the (awesome and great fit) addition of Sheed, all we need is a 3rd year backup point guard to step up and sign a Posey replacement/upgrade (Barnes).  I hope Baby is back, I would really miss him, but if forced to choose, I&#8217;d go with Barnes.  Still not 100% sure how to guard Rashard Lewis, but I think KG will figure it out <img src='http://celticshub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Can&#8217;t overlook Lebron, but if it didn&#8217;t work out this year and I don&#8217;t see it workin next year just because you went out and got Shaq (see PHX 1st round exit 2008, no playoffs 2009).  Lebron IS NOT staying in Cleveland, and they should trade him even though they won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: steven c</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, the Celts have chosen short over long term since Sheed will be 35 by opening day. I am unconvinced this is a wise move, simply because I don’t see the upgrade over Davis/Powe. Let us look at Wallace over the last three years (where his production has eroded marginally). About 31 mins a game, 12.5 points on .425 shooting (.355 from 3pt),
7 boards and 1.6 assists. (last year 32, 12, .419, .354 , 7.4, 1.4).  Last season Powe/Davis 35.3 mins 14.7 on .490 shooting (3pters is not applicable since Powe took none and Davis was 2 of 5) 8.4 boards and 1.6 assists. So it appears that apart from 3 point shooting it’s at best a wash. And you lose two promising young players. I forgot, there is one area where Sheed’s stats are an upgrade. Technical fouls! Sheed, over his career has averaged 21 a year (though to be fair it’s only been 17 a year the last three years!), whereas Powe and Davis managed a paltry 6 between them! Frankly, I think this was not a good move and adding Grant Hill who’ll be 37 (and a rickety 37 at that!) also won’t help the Celtics either. To put it simply adding more age to an aging team does not appear to be a fruitful move. Frankly, if Garnett is fit all season, and Pierce and Allen avoid serious injury, then Boston is a contender in the East. If not, then with or without Wallace, the Celtics won’t challenge. But as hack reprters are wont to end their pieces: “Only time will tell!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, the Celts have chosen short over long term since Sheed will be 35 by opening day. I am unconvinced this is a wise move, simply because I don’t see the upgrade over Davis/Powe. Let us look at Wallace over the last three years (where his production has eroded marginally). About 31 mins a game, 12.5 points on .425 shooting (.355 from 3pt),<br />
7 boards and 1.6 assists. (last year 32, 12, .419, .354 , 7.4, 1.4).  Last season Powe/Davis 35.3 mins 14.7 on .490 shooting (3pters is not applicable since Powe took none and Davis was 2 of 5) 8.4 boards and 1.6 assists. So it appears that apart from 3 point shooting it’s at best a wash. And you lose two promising young players. I forgot, there is one area where Sheed’s stats are an upgrade. Technical fouls! Sheed, over his career has averaged 21 a year (though to be fair it’s only been 17 a year the last three years!), whereas Powe and Davis managed a paltry 6 between them! Frankly, I think this was not a good move and adding Grant Hill who’ll be 37 (and a rickety 37 at that!) also won’t help the Celtics either. To put it simply adding more age to an aging team does not appear to be a fruitful move. Frankly, if Garnett is fit all season, and Pierce and Allen avoid serious injury, then Boston is a contender in the East. If not, then with or without Wallace, the Celtics won’t challenge. But as hack reprters are wont to end their pieces: “Only time will tell!”</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noone said he&#039;s washed up, and glad ya brought up Allen, let&#039;s look at the difference.

Carter, made his living off creating his own shots, he beats people off the dribble, he hits fall aways, he dunks over you. At 32, he&#039;s now just a step slower on that first move, just a step slower getting into that lane. For a cut and slash player, one step makes all the difference.

Allen is a completely different player, he gets open with the help of his team. He moves off screens, without the ball, and finds space. The only thing he loses, is maybe he doesn&#039;t have the endurance he once did, and might need more time on the bench, but even that&#039;s debatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noone said he&#8217;s washed up, and glad ya brought up Allen, let&#8217;s look at the difference.</p>
<p>Carter, made his living off creating his own shots, he beats people off the dribble, he hits fall aways, he dunks over you. At 32, he&#8217;s now just a step slower on that first move, just a step slower getting into that lane. For a cut and slash player, one step makes all the difference.</p>
<p>Allen is a completely different player, he gets open with the help of his team. He moves off screens, without the ball, and finds space. The only thing he loses, is maybe he doesn&#8217;t have the endurance he once did, and might need more time on the bench, but even that&#8217;s debatable.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@thomas: I don&#039;t think I said VC is a washed up, did I? I actually have a healthy fear of his athleticism (though I think his shot selection occasionally veers into poor territory)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thomas: I don&#8217;t think I said VC is a washed up, did I? I actually have a healthy fear of his athleticism (though I think his shot selection occasionally veers into poor territory)</p>
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