Comments on: Should We Fear Them? Four Questions for the Raptors http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:01:20 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Should We Fear Then, Part IV: The Bulls » Boston Celtics Basketball – Celtics news, rumors and analysis – CelticsHub.com http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/comment-page-1/#comment-11686 Should We Fear Then, Part IV: The Bulls » Boston Celtics Basketball – Celtics news, rumors and analysis – CelticsHub.com Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:56:48 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3076#comment-11686 [...] teams outside the Holy Triumvirate of Cleveland-Boston-Orlando. (See prior installments on the Raptors, Wizards and [...] [...] teams outside the Holy Triumvirate of Cleveland-Boston-Orlando. (See prior installments on the Raptors, Wizards and [...]

]]> By: khandor http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/comment-page-1/#comment-7622 khandor Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:40:16 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3076#comment-7622 nunya, Without the name-calling, etc., [in your some of your comments on different sites] you can bring some solid hoops analysis to the table. Does someone who would choose <a href="http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2009/08/20/you-make-the-call-which-young-pf-would-you-take/" rel="nofollow">Josh Smith over Chris Bosh</a> when evaluating players in today's game at the PF position, strike you as a "CB4 idol-worshipper"? Unlike those who waste their time & energy attacking Bosh's individual game, IMO, it is far more prudent AND accurate to realize that this young man is: * Only turning 25 this year * A multiple-time All-Star performer * 1 of the few 20/10 players in the NBA * An Olympic Games Gold-Medal-winner when operating at his best, as a finesse-based Center who focuses on facilitating overall team play, while Rebounding [priority], Defending [priority] and Scoring [in moderation], with his outstanding level of quickness, and the match-up problems he creates for opponents at this specific position. With the "credits" Bosh has accumulated to this point in his career, while playing for a team like the Raptors, those who attempt to insult this young man are the mis-guided individuals. ---------------------- re: Belinelli I, too, think that this young man has the goods to become a very good NBA player ... that is ... IF he is used properly. I am very interested to see if the Raptors' braintrust is actually capable of figuring this out this season. ---------------------- Steve, re: the views of Bleacher Report Since they started their operation I have seen little from them to warrant placing much stock in their opinions. nunya,

Without the name-calling, etc., [in your some of your comments on different sites] you can bring some solid hoops analysis to the table.

Does someone who would choose Josh Smith over Chris Bosh when evaluating players in today’s game at the PF position, strike you as a “CB4 idol-worshipper”?

Unlike those who waste their time & energy attacking Bosh’s individual game, IMO, it is far more prudent AND accurate to realize that this young man is:

* Only turning 25 this year
* A multiple-time All-Star performer
* 1 of the few 20/10 players in the NBA
* An Olympic Games Gold-Medal-winner

when operating at his best, as a finesse-based Center who focuses on facilitating overall team play, while Rebounding [priority], Defending [priority] and Scoring [in moderation], with his outstanding level of quickness, and the match-up problems he creates for opponents at this specific position.

With the “credits” Bosh has accumulated to this point in his career, while playing for a team like the Raptors, those who attempt to insult this young man are the mis-guided individuals.

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re: Belinelli

I, too, think that this young man has the goods to become a very good NBA player … that is … IF he is used properly.

I am very interested to see if the Raptors’ braintrust is actually capable of figuring this out this season.

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Steve,

re: the views of Bleacher Report

Since they started their operation I have seen little from them to warrant placing much stock in their opinions.

]]> By: Tinman http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/comment-page-1/#comment-7609 Tinman Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:20:14 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3076#comment-7609 Don't know of many in Raptorland who consider Bosh a superstar(but unfortunately will command superstar money next season). Really think its unfair to call him overrated or a weakling. Bosh is a top 7-15. He's in that pack, you know, behind the Lebrons, yet ahead of the Boozers. Will be interesting watching him surrounded with different talent, whether he'll accept less touches. One positive, less double teams. Look for his rebounding numbers to jump, time for him to crash the boards. Don’t know of many in Raptorland who consider Bosh a superstar(but unfortunately will command superstar money next season). Really think its unfair to call him overrated or a weakling. Bosh is a top 7-15. He’s in that pack, you know, behind the Lebrons, yet ahead of the Boozers. Will be interesting watching him surrounded with different talent, whether he’ll accept less touches. One positive, less double teams.
Look for his rebounding numbers to jump, time for him to crash the boards.

]]> By: Steve http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/comment-page-1/#comment-7605 Steve Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:05:08 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3076#comment-7605 I believe you nailed it, khador! IF they are healthy, the Celtics are an elite team. Have some fun, read about the risks! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/239895-celtics-lakers-magic-spurs-who-is-heading-for-a-fall I believe you nailed it, khador!

IF they are healthy, the Celtics are an elite team.

Have some fun, read about the risks!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/239895-celtics-lakers-magic-spurs-who-is-heading-for-a-fall

]]> By: nunya http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/comment-page-1/#comment-7598 nunya Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:44:08 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3076#comment-7598 Got to love these idiotic Bosh fanboys who still can't get it into their ridiculous little twats that Bosh is the most overrated weakling in the league. This moron Khandor has devoted his life to idolizing "RuPaul" despite game after game of pretty much every player over 6 feet doing whatever they want against Bosh. It will all depend on chemistry and I have a feeling the Raptor's chemistry will be pretty good once they get rolling. Belinelli will have a breakout year. The Celtics will surprise, but not in the way the Boston fanboys think...KG will not bounce back as well as they assume and Ray Allen will have health problems...not to mention Rondo's dissing this summer coming back to bite the team in the ass. Orlando is going to be scary. It all depends on Nelson getting back to form...if he doesn't, they will struggle. Got to love these idiotic Bosh fanboys who still can’t get it into their ridiculous little twats that Bosh is the most overrated weakling in the league. This moron Khandor has devoted his life to idolizing “RuPaul” despite game after game of pretty much every player over 6 feet doing whatever they want against Bosh.
It will all depend on chemistry and I have a feeling the Raptor’s chemistry will be pretty good once they get rolling.
Belinelli will have a breakout year.
The Celtics will surprise, but not in the way the Boston fanboys think…KG will not bounce back as well as they assume and Ray Allen will have health problems…not to mention Rondo’s dissing this summer coming back to bite the team in the ass.
Orlando is going to be scary. It all depends on Nelson getting back to form…if he doesn’t, they will struggle.

]]> By: Tinman http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/comment-page-1/#comment-7578 Tinman Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:33:50 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3076#comment-7578 Oh - there you are Khandor. Props to you guys, solid assessment, well except for the Calderon bit - his hamstring hurt for 3/4 of his season- you try guarding with a sore hammy. He's a very good point guard when healthy. Think I'll bookmark you. I think you calling the top three spots is premature. Only team that I think stands out are the Cavs and that is because Lebron is coming into his own. Seriously doubt the Magic improved, and do not see them repeating their, uh, magic from last season. And you guys arguably got thinner and older. Your W total is heading south. Injuries will be a factor(they killed the Raptors last season) and some of these signings, Shaq, Vince, and Sheed might not work out as well as you all think. One thing for sure is that Raptor fans can't wait for the season to begin. BC basically kept his core of Bosh, Bargnani and Calderon(easily top 10 PG when healthy) and then blew up the ship. The Raptors are a wild card this year, rookie coach, so many new faces, much more athleticism and raw ability has been added. Coach Triano has been given the bodies, lets hope he can maximize their talents. Oh – there you are Khandor.

Props to you guys, solid assessment, well except for the Calderon bit – his hamstring hurt for 3/4 of his season- you try guarding with a sore hammy. He’s a very good point guard when healthy.
Think I’ll bookmark you.

I think you calling the top three spots is premature.
Only team that I think stands out are the Cavs and that is because Lebron is coming into his own.
Seriously doubt the Magic improved, and do not see them repeating their, uh, magic from last season.
And you guys arguably got thinner and older. Your W total is heading south.
Injuries will be a factor(they killed the Raptors last season) and some of these signings, Shaq, Vince, and Sheed might not work out as well as you all think.

One thing for sure is that Raptor fans can’t wait for the season to begin. BC basically kept his core of Bosh, Bargnani and Calderon(easily top 10 PG when healthy) and then blew up the ship.
The Raptors are a wild card this year, rookie coach, so many new faces, much more athleticism and raw ability has been added. Coach Triano has been given the bodies, lets hope he can maximize their talents.

]]> By: khandor http://celticshub.com/2009/08/20/should-we-fear-them-four-questions-for-the-raptors/comment-page-1/#comment-7573 khandor Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:26:26 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3076#comment-7573 Steve, When that possibly "best team on paper" is also the one which won 66 games two seasons ago, plus the NBA title, and then followed that up with a 62-win regular season campaign last year, which included advancing to the 2nd Round of the playoffs ... despite playing without a HOF player like Kevin Garnett and a highlt serviceable Big [off the bench] like Leon Powe ... only to lose to the team that then went on to the NBA Finals, I'd suggest that this outfit ... after adding a 3rd Big Man with the cred of Rasheed Wallace, is in all likelihood, going to be something substantially more than a mere "paper tiger" this coming season. When the season opens this fall, if the C's are healthy, I'd expect them to be one of the elite teams in the League right from the get-go. PS. IMO, adding Wallace to this cast of characters will be not be disruptive in the least. On the contrary ... he is going to function like KG's brother-in-arms [as well as T's]. Steve,

When that possibly “best team on paper” is also the one which won 66 games two seasons ago, plus the NBA title, and then followed that up with a 62-win regular season campaign last year, which included advancing to the 2nd Round of the playoffs … despite playing without a HOF player like Kevin Garnett and a highlt serviceable Big [off the bench] like Leon Powe … only to lose to the team that then went on to the NBA Finals, I’d suggest that this outfit … after adding a 3rd Big Man with the cred of Rasheed Wallace, is in all likelihood, going to be something substantially more than a mere “paper tiger” this coming season.

When the season opens this fall, if the C’s are healthy, I’d expect them to be one of the elite teams in the League right from the get-go.

PS. IMO, adding Wallace to this cast of characters will be not be disruptive in the least. On the contrary … he is going to function like KG’s brother-in-arms [as well as T's].

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