Comments on: Friday Fun with Numbers: The ‘08 C’s–Greatest Defensive Team in Modern NBA History? http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:54:57 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Chronz http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-18107 Chronz Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:50:27 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3336#comment-18107 Its not that difficult bro, its pretty much common sense. You dont compare across eras without accounting for league averages. IIRC The C's had the 3rd best Defensive Efficiency above league average in NBA history. Its not that difficult bro, its pretty much common sense. You dont compare across eras without accounting for league averages.

IIRC The C’s had the 3rd best Defensive Efficiency above league average in NBA history.

]]> By: Building a Defense for 2010’s NBA » Boston Celtics Basketball – Celtics news, rumors and analysis – CelticsHub.com http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-18046 Building a Defense for 2010’s NBA » Boston Celtics Basketball – Celtics news, rumors and analysis – CelticsHub.com Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:02:53 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3336#comment-18046 [...] C’s 2008 defense (98.9 points allowed per 100 possessions), a unit that should be included in any conversation about the greatest defensive teams of the post-hand check [...] [...] C’s 2008 defense (98.9 points allowed per 100 possessions), a unit that should be included in any conversation about the greatest defensive teams of the post-hand check [...]

]]> By: Piano http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-12880 Piano Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:01:57 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3336#comment-12880 <strong>Piano...</strong> Hello ;) Thanks heaps for this indeed!... if anyone else has anything, it would be much appreciated. Great website Super Piano Links http://www.en.Grand-Pianos.org Enjoy!... Piano…

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]]> By: Suga Shane http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-9273 Suga Shane Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:14:42 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3336#comment-9273 okay, i made a few revised sheets. How do i email you guys? or you can email me and ill forward it. okay, i made a few revised sheets. How do i email you guys?

or you can email me and ill forward it.

]]> By: Zach Lowe http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-9267 Zach Lowe Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:24:01 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3336#comment-9267 All great suggestions, particularly the guys talking about rating teams by their departure from the median def efficiency. This post was just meant as a quick, fun discussion-generator, not a definitive conclusion about who is the best ever. That would obviously require a very rigorous analysis best saved for another day. All great suggestions, particularly the guys talking about rating teams by their departure from the median def efficiency.

This post was just meant as a quick, fun discussion-generator, not a definitive conclusion about who is the best ever. That would obviously require a very rigorous analysis best saved for another day.

]]> By: Suga Shane http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-9266 Suga Shane Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:21:55 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3336#comment-9266 i think you are on the right path, but you cant just DISMISS those teams from the deadball era. yes, that era sucked, and yes, hand checking sucked. but in jordan's era really really good scorers werent just shut down, they were thrown down. may i suggest that instead of throwing away that era, keep it. But you now need to change how you define the stats. Dont just look at their overall efficiency rating, but look at how much it varies from the overall average. Scoring in the nba as well as efficiency have both increased over the past decade or so. The year the Spurs (2005) set that Low (great) defensive mark, teams werent scoring as much or as efficiently as teams did in 2008. What i suggest you do is rank all the teams based on overall efficiency, then rank them based on the Delta(variance) from the league average. you can also adjust each season to be a % below average then find out what the overall NBA defensive efficiency average is has been since the 1979-80 season and adjust the figures to represent a true overall NBA Defensive Efficiency leaders. i think you are on the right path, but you cant just DISMISS those teams from the deadball era. yes, that era sucked, and yes, hand checking sucked.

but in jordan’s era really really good scorers werent just shut down, they were thrown down. may i suggest that instead of throwing away that era, keep it. But you now need to change how you define the stats.

Dont just look at their overall efficiency rating, but look at how much it varies from the overall average. Scoring in the nba as well as efficiency have both increased over the past decade or so. The year the Spurs (2005) set that Low (great) defensive mark, teams werent scoring as much or as efficiently as teams did in 2008.

What i suggest you do is rank all the teams based on overall efficiency, then rank them based on the Delta(variance) from the league average.

you can also adjust each season to be a % below average then find out what the overall NBA defensive efficiency average is has been since the 1979-80 season and adjust the figures to represent a true overall NBA Defensive Efficiency leaders.

]]> By: Gerrit http://celticshub.com/2009/09/25/friday-fun-with-numbers-the-08-celtics-were-freaking-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-9258 Gerrit Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:36:19 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=3336#comment-9258 You should compare the teams defensive efficiency to the league average that year. That would give you a better idea of how good these teams were relative to the prevailing offenses and defenses of the day. You should compare the teams defensive efficiency to the league average that year. That would give you a better idea of how good these teams were relative to the prevailing offenses and defenses of the day.

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