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		<title>By: Daniel Lavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Lavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who would the c&#039;s have to trade for him?  who would we lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who would the c&#8217;s have to trade for him?  who would we lose?</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Lowe</title>
		<link>http://celticshub.com/2009/11/18/average-andres/comment-page-1/#comment-13700</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John V: Re: &quot;salary issues.&quot; We&#039;re talking about the fact that Noc makes a pretty decent chunk of change--$7M--and that it&#039;s guaranteed through 2012. Not ideal. I get that the &#039;C&#039;s are going to accept a non-expiring back in exchange for expirings (otherwise, what&#039;s the point for the trade partner?), but perhaps they can do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John V: Re: &#8220;salary issues.&#8221; We&#8217;re talking about the fact that Noc makes a pretty decent chunk of change&#8211;$7M&#8211;and that it&#8217;s guaranteed through 2012. Not ideal. I get that the &#8216;C&#8217;s are going to accept a non-expiring back in exchange for expirings (otherwise, what&#8217;s the point for the trade partner?), but perhaps they can do better.</p>
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		<title>By: John V</title>
		<link>http://celticshub.com/2009/11/18/average-andres/comment-page-1/#comment-13672</link>
		<dc:creator>John V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One suggestion if we really want to go the trade route: Adam Morrison.  He can shoot the three and he has an expiring contract.  He also seemed to have a passion for the game and seems to be trying to resurrect his career.  As for defense... well, he plays the 3.  Still, there&#039;s an intangible: he reportedly punched Vujacic in the face once.  So, that&#039;s good.

He&#039;s really not a very good NBA player, though, and the other problem is, would the Celtics and Lakers really make a trade with each other, even if it&#039;s just for 12th men?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One suggestion if we really want to go the trade route: Adam Morrison.  He can shoot the three and he has an expiring contract.  He also seemed to have a passion for the game and seems to be trying to resurrect his career.  As for defense&#8230; well, he plays the 3.  Still, there&#8217;s an intangible: he reportedly punched Vujacic in the face once.  So, that&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s really not a very good NBA player, though, and the other problem is, would the Celtics and Lakers really make a trade with each other, even if it&#8217;s just for 12th men?</p>
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		<title>By: John V</title>
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		<dc:creator>John V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are we talking about in terms of &quot;salary issues&quot;?  Does that mean we only want someone with an expiring contract?  The value of Scal, TA, and Giddens is that they have expiring contracts, so a team looking to cut costs (whether simply to save money, or to try to get in on the 2010 bonanza) will offer more talent than they get back.

If we want expiring contracts in return, then we&#039;re only going to get an equivalent amount of talent.

We could look for a free agent.  Stackhouse is still out there.  But the guy I really like is Gerald Green.  I realize that, so far in his career, he doesn&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;.  But I thought he was coming along nicely with the Cs, and I think most fans were sad to see him included in the KG trade.  I am still shocked at how quickly his career tanked.

He can shoot the 3, and he obviously has the freakish athleticism that let him win the dunk contests.  I thought he played acceptable defense even as a 20 year old.  He never got very good at it, but clearly he has the physical tools to guard any wing player.

I&#039;ve been hoping Danny would call him in ever since the Timberwolves cut him, but as far as I&#039;ve seen reported, there&#039;s been no interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are we talking about in terms of &#8220;salary issues&#8221;?  Does that mean we only want someone with an expiring contract?  The value of Scal, TA, and Giddens is that they have expiring contracts, so a team looking to cut costs (whether simply to save money, or to try to get in on the 2010 bonanza) will offer more talent than they get back.</p>
<p>If we want expiring contracts in return, then we&#8217;re only going to get an equivalent amount of talent.</p>
<p>We could look for a free agent.  Stackhouse is still out there.  But the guy I really like is Gerald Green.  I realize that, so far in his career, he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;.  But I thought he was coming along nicely with the Cs, and I think most fans were sad to see him included in the KG trade.  I am still shocked at how quickly his career tanked.</p>
<p>He can shoot the 3, and he obviously has the freakish athleticism that let him win the dunk contests.  I thought he played acceptable defense even as a 20 year old.  He never got very good at it, but clearly he has the physical tools to guard any wing player.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been hoping Danny would call him in ever since the Timberwolves cut him, but as far as I&#8217;ve seen reported, there&#8217;s been no interest.</p>
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		<title>By: The 10-man rotation, starring Vince Carter dolls &#124; Sports News Images and Videos</title>
		<link>http://celticshub.com/2009/11/18/average-andres/comment-page-1/#comment-13662</link>
		<dc:creator>The 10-man rotation, starring Vince Carter dolls &#124; Sports News Images and Videos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his choice of an offensive threat for a day, and he&#8217;d pick &#8216;Melo&#8217;s game.8th: CelticsHub. Andres Nocioni(notes): The most average player in the NBA.9th: The Disciples of Clyde. BDL&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] his choice of an offensive threat for a day, and he&#8217;d pick &#8216;Melo&#8217;s game.8th: CelticsHub. Andres Nocioni(notes): The most average player in the NBA.9th: The Disciples of Clyde. BDL&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://celticshub.com/2009/11/18/average-andres/comment-page-1/#comment-13658</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about trading Tayshaun Prince, Rip Hamilton and Dujuan Summers for Ray Allen, Scal and Bill Walker? Both Rip and Tay offer above average defense and competent offense. Rip&#039;s game is similar to Ray except with shorter range, Tay can help limit Paul Peirce&#039;s minutes. 

Detroit might buy into this because they get 18 million in cap space for the 2010 free agent bonanza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about trading Tayshaun Prince, Rip Hamilton and Dujuan Summers for Ray Allen, Scal and Bill Walker? Both Rip and Tay offer above average defense and competent offense. Rip&#8217;s game is similar to Ray except with shorter range, Tay can help limit Paul Peirce&#8217;s minutes. </p>
<p>Detroit might buy into this because they get 18 million in cap space for the 2010 free agent bonanza</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Jackson :)  Gay would be awesome.  As Tommy would say, he might be gay, but no one is laughing (said it last year on TV)

Nocioni plays European defense, which means not a lot and a lot of flopping.  Say No to Noci.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Jackson <img src='http://celticshub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Gay would be awesome.  As Tommy would say, he might be gay, but no one is laughing (said it last year on TV)</p>
<p>Nocioni plays European defense, which means not a lot and a lot of flopping.  Say No to Noci.</p>
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