Comments on: Trouble In LA, LA Land: Clippers 92, Celtics 90 http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/ Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:40:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: wedding shop http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/comment-page-1/#comment-29794 wedding shop Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:04:18 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=5068#comment-29794 0-6 after weeks of bad shooting. I agree with Bubbles that he lacks a conscience sometimes. 0-6 after weeks of bad shooting. I agree with Bubbles that he lacks a conscience sometimes.

]]> By: Idaho http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/comment-page-1/#comment-18119 Idaho Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:22:03 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=5068#comment-18119 0-6 after weeks of bad shooting. I agree with Bubbles that he lacks a conscience sometimes. 0-6 after weeks of bad shooting. I agree with Bubbles that he lacks a conscience sometimes.

]]> By: jylze http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/comment-page-1/#comment-18092 jylze Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:32:06 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=5068#comment-18092 I think everyone is being too hard on Sheed. I agree Perk should have been in at the 5 at the close, but the C's needed a bucket and nobody was hot. He got the ball in his hands and did what he was likely told to do. Of course I would have preferred he slow it down and not take that shot, but I hardly blame him for having an off night. I think everyone is being too hard on Sheed. I agree Perk should have been in at the 5 at the close, but the C’s needed a bucket and nobody was hot. He got the ball in his hands and did what he was likely told to do. Of course I would have preferred he slow it down and not take that shot, but I hardly blame him for having an off night.

]]> By: Corey http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/comment-page-1/#comment-18075 Corey Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:01:00 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=5068#comment-18075 I just do not understand why Rondo would have the ball in that situation. Rondo is at his best when teams slide off of him and he is able to take that short pull-up jumper, or get a full head of steam going to the basket before anyone can rotate back on to him. The one time where teams play up tight man to man D is at the end of these games where nobody wants to get beat by there man. He should have drawn a double team and kicked out to either Ray Ray or Eddie for an open jumper. Ray Ray has shown a flair for the dramatic his entire career, including several game winners with the Celts. Why not get the ball into the hands of your best available offensive player at the end of the game. Gorman discussed Baron Davis' flair for the dramatic just prior to the game-winner against the Celts. It just makes me wonder why they wouldn't do the same and get the ball in their best player's hands I just do not understand why Rondo would have the ball in that situation. Rondo is at his best when teams slide off of him and he is able to take that short pull-up jumper, or get a full head of steam going to the basket before anyone can rotate back on to him. The one time where teams play up tight man to man D is at the end of these games where nobody wants to get beat by there man. He should have drawn a double team and kicked out to either Ray Ray or Eddie for an open jumper. Ray Ray has shown a flair for the dramatic his entire career, including several game winners with the Celts. Why not get the ball into the hands of your best available offensive player at the end of the game.

Gorman discussed Baron Davis’ flair for the dramatic just prior to the game-winner against the Celts. It just makes me wonder why they wouldn’t do the same and get the ball in their best player’s hands

]]> By: Shamrock Stu http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/comment-page-1/#comment-18070 Shamrock Stu Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:15:11 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=5068#comment-18070 One game does not make a season. The Celtics just came off an emotional win, flew out West, no Pierce, G Davis just getting back in the flow: the situation was ripe for a let down (read Doc's after game comments). Look, Rondo has made incredible strides in his game but still has some areas needing focus ... remember he's still only 23 and leading the most storied NBA team in history. His teammates are the ones who have faith in him and support him, even if some of us fans have our doubts. No need to push the Rondo panic button. However, the jury is still out on the Sheed verdict. One game does not make a season. The Celtics just came off an emotional win, flew out West, no Pierce, G Davis just getting back in the flow: the situation was ripe for a let down (read Doc’s after game comments). Look, Rondo has made incredible strides in his game but still has some areas needing focus … remember he’s still only 23 and leading the most storied NBA team in history. His teammates are the ones who have faith in him and support him, even if some of us fans have our doubts. No need to push the Rondo panic button. However, the jury is still out on the Sheed verdict.

]]> By: Idaho http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/comment-page-1/#comment-18058 Idaho Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:42:13 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=5068#comment-18058 Great points bubbles. The FT is not that difficult of a shot especially if you are short (for the NBA). Who is coaching this kid, have you seen that set-up at the line? Or is he not listening to anyone with the ft's? I know rondo is the future of the celtics in many ways but he is so far from the go-to-guy at the end of games that we should be focusing on our plethora of offensive alternatives (outside of PP and RA) at the end of games to win a championship. If we rely on RR at the end of games we will sorely be disappointed. The Sheed situation is just as troubling. I have just been troubled by Rondo's defense and offense at the end of games for some time now and since he is the future of the celtics it scares the crap out of me he still doesn't work hard at the end of games in my opinion on the defensive end. Great points bubbles. The FT is not that difficult of a shot especially if you are short (for the NBA). Who is coaching this kid, have you seen that set-up at the line? Or is he not listening to anyone with the ft’s?

I know rondo is the future of the celtics in many ways but he is so far from the go-to-guy at the end of games that we should be focusing on our plethora of offensive alternatives (outside of PP and RA) at the end of games to win a championship. If we rely on RR at the end of games we will sorely be disappointed.

The Sheed situation is just as troubling. I have just been troubled by Rondo’s defense and offense at the end of games for some time now and since he is the future of the celtics it scares the crap out of me he still doesn’t work hard at the end of games in my opinion on the defensive end.

]]> By: Cptn Bubbles http://celticshub.com/2009/12/28/trouble-in-la-la-land-clippers-92-celtics-90/comment-page-1/#comment-18053 Cptn Bubbles Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:22:16 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=5068#comment-18053 I agree with Koolaid's point that Rajon is such a competitor that he will be shooting thousands of ft's now. He loves the unorthodox--such as all those beautiful bank shots he takes & makes. If there was a consistent way to bank a ft in he would be great at that. Or maybe the unique form & spin of the granny shot would be something he could master. However he does it, I think Rajon has to learn to take the love he has for the bank shot, bounce pass, steal, & ball fake and feel that same love, interest, & enjoyment for the ft. Most people say ft's are mostly mental. If you step to the line hating ft's it will probably be a bad trip. I always loved ft's, & I feel like that had a major impact on my success. I remember the first time I shot what was basically a free throw at a state fair (where they put tape around the rims to make the hole smaller). I was determined to make it, & I actually got pretty good at it-- much to the disgust of the guy handing out prizes. You can put an apparatus on the goal to make the hole smaller. That is what Rondo needs--really challenge himself to a whole other level of precision. At first, it will be very hard, but he is stubborn enough to get a whole lot better by pushing himself harder. I agree with Idaho, in that, when it's the final minute you should have the ball in the hands of Paul & spread the court with 4 shooters. That opens up a ton of possibilities. I love Rondo, but you have to use strategy & play the situation not the player. I don't understand how KG can get def. rebounds but zero off. rebounds. Shouldn't he have somewhat similar effort/numbers on the off. glass? What is it about TA & Baby that allowed them to get off. boards? It seems like the rebounds are there for an aggressive player, even a shorter guard. I don't see Rondo blocking shots, taking charges, or putting a body on somebody driving so maybe he should, since he has been good at rebounding in the past, focus in more on offensive rebounding. Everyone knows that most nba players hate playing defense. It has to be emotionally & psychologically devastating & demoralizing to see the other team get an offensive rebound=oh no, I have to play even more defense. We probably have all played ball with people who had no conscience who could shoot us out of games. The answer was always don't pass it to them or only pass it to them when they had a higher percentage shot. Since Sheed has no understanding of having an off night from 3, & Doc is too scared to sub him out when Sheed loses any & all self discipline for shot selection, it falls on the other 4 players on the court to resist the temptation to pass the ball to Sheed at the 3 pt line. The other 4 players have to take matters into their own hands & NOT pass Sheed the ball unless he is in the post. Sheed does some things extremely well, but he does have 2 major weaknesses. Since he can't control himself & Doc can't/won't control him, the only practical answer is for the team to take charge of the situation & NOT pass the ball to him at the 3 pt line when he is on one of these binges. I agree with Koolaid’s point that Rajon is such a competitor that he will be shooting thousands of ft’s now. He loves the unorthodox–such as all those beautiful bank shots he takes & makes. If there was a consistent way to bank a ft in he would be great at that. Or maybe the unique form & spin of the granny shot would be something he could master. However he does it, I think Rajon has to learn to take the love he has for the bank shot, bounce pass, steal, & ball fake and feel that same love, interest, & enjoyment for the ft. Most people say ft’s are mostly mental. If you step to the line hating ft’s it will probably be a bad trip. I always loved ft’s, & I feel like that had a major impact on my success. I remember the first time I shot what was basically a free throw at a state fair (where they put tape around the rims to make the hole smaller). I was determined to make it, & I actually got pretty good at it– much to the disgust of the guy handing out prizes. You can put an apparatus on the goal to make the hole smaller. That is what Rondo needs–really challenge himself to a whole other level of precision. At first, it will be very hard, but he is stubborn enough to get a whole lot better by pushing himself harder.

I agree with Idaho, in that, when it’s the final minute you should have the ball in the hands of Paul & spread the court with 4 shooters. That opens up a ton of possibilities. I love Rondo, but you have to use strategy & play the situation not the player.

I don’t understand how KG can get def. rebounds but zero off. rebounds. Shouldn’t he have somewhat similar effort/numbers on the off. glass? What is it about TA & Baby that allowed them to get off. boards? It seems like the rebounds are there for an aggressive player, even a shorter guard. I don’t see Rondo blocking shots, taking charges, or putting a body on somebody driving so maybe he should, since he has been good at rebounding in the past, focus in more on offensive rebounding. Everyone knows that most nba players hate playing defense. It has to be emotionally & psychologically devastating & demoralizing to see the other team get an offensive rebound=oh no, I have to play even more defense.

We probably have all played ball with people who had no conscience who could shoot us out of games. The answer was always don’t pass it to them or only pass it to them when they had a higher percentage shot. Since Sheed has no understanding of having an off night from 3, & Doc is too scared to sub him out when Sheed loses any & all self discipline for shot selection, it falls on the other 4 players on the court to resist the temptation to pass the ball to Sheed at the 3 pt line. The other 4 players have to take matters into their own hands & NOT pass Sheed the ball unless he is in the post. Sheed does some things extremely well, but he does have 2 major weaknesses. Since he can’t control himself & Doc can’t/won’t control him, the only practical answer is for the team to take charge of the situation & NOT pass the ball to him at the 3 pt line when he is on one of these binges.

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