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		<title>By: What Can I Say?</title>
		<link>http://celticshub.com/2010/03/08/emptying-the-sloan-notebook/comment-page-1/#comment-33612</link>
		<dc:creator>What Can I Say?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is crazy! 

Kevin Pritchard (Portland GM) on the definition of an assist: “If you ask 30 different scorekeepers, you get 30 different answers.” 

I used to &quot;trip&quot; watching Kevin Garnett play and be handing dimes out and then look in the Box Score scratching my head. Where are the assists?

LOL @ Gerald Green. Mark Cuban is a little cocky SOB. Actually, he isn&#039;t all that little.

Tom Gugliota sucks. I don&#039;t know or care to know his plus/minus either. 

I vaguely remember hearing an NBA on NBC announcer reporting that Darell Armstrong drinks a ton of coffee before the games when he played in Orlando. Sugar Rush

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is crazy! </p>
<p>Kevin Pritchard (Portland GM) on the definition of an assist: “If you ask 30 different scorekeepers, you get 30 different answers.” </p>
<p>I used to &#8220;trip&#8221; watching Kevin Garnett play and be handing dimes out and then look in the Box Score scratching my head. Where are the assists?</p>
<p>LOL @ Gerald Green. Mark Cuban is a little cocky SOB. Actually, he isn&#8217;t all that little.</p>
<p>Tom Gugliota sucks. I don&#8217;t know or care to know his plus/minus either. </p>
<p>I vaguely remember hearing an NBA on NBC announcer reporting that Darell Armstrong drinks a ton of coffee before the games when he played in Orlando. Sugar Rush</p>
<p>Great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: cmoney</title>
		<link>http://celticshub.com/2010/03/08/emptying-the-sloan-notebook/comment-page-1/#comment-31127</link>
		<dc:creator>cmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the stat world largely scoffs at the idea of an &quot;assist&quot;.  It&#039;s a fairly meaningless stat. Just like all shots aren&#039;t created equal, neither are all assists.  A discrete alley oop or an expertly run 2v1 break, that&#039;s a lot of value.  Swinging it to a guy who buries a contested 20 footer isn&#039;t really a good thing. Plus there&#039;s the problem of passes that lead to drawn fouls and FTs.  

For advanced stats guys to make use of passing data, they&#039;d need the type of shots they lead to, they&#039;d need to count FTs, etc.. it probably just isn&#039;t worth it.  For instance, with someone like Nash, it&#039;s not the gawdy assist #s that make him so valuable. If you dig a little deeper, you see how much his team&#039;s eFG% improves when he&#039;s on the floor.  That&#039;s a far better indicator of value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the stat world largely scoffs at the idea of an &#8220;assist&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a fairly meaningless stat. Just like all shots aren&#8217;t created equal, neither are all assists.  A discrete alley oop or an expertly run 2v1 break, that&#8217;s a lot of value.  Swinging it to a guy who buries a contested 20 footer isn&#8217;t really a good thing. Plus there&#8217;s the problem of passes that lead to drawn fouls and FTs.  </p>
<p>For advanced stats guys to make use of passing data, they&#8217;d need the type of shots they lead to, they&#8217;d need to count FTs, etc.. it probably just isn&#8217;t worth it.  For instance, with someone like Nash, it&#8217;s not the gawdy assist #s that make him so valuable. If you dig a little deeper, you see how much his team&#8217;s eFG% improves when he&#8217;s on the floor.  That&#8217;s a far better indicator of value.</p>
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		<title>By: DeVelaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeVelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;shields&quot; are rebounds. This took some playing with Google Translate to figure out, however. Looks like they&#039;re trying to call them &quot;boards,&quot; and depending on the translator, the same word can be used for board, shield, and panel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;shields&#8221; are rebounds. This took some playing with Google Translate to figure out, however. Looks like they&#8217;re trying to call them &#8220;boards,&#8221; and depending on the translator, the same word can be used for board, shield, and panel.</p>
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		<title>By: Throwing some dimes: Gerald Green&#8217;s a moron : Celtics Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Throwing some dimes: Gerald Green&#8217;s a moron : Celtics Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Celtics Hub&#8217;s Zach Lowe went to the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. Cuban: “Some guys in our sport are morons. You want to dump them on another team.” Cuban said [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Celtics Hub&#8217;s Zach Lowe went to the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. Cuban: “Some guys in our sport are morons. You want to dump them on another team.” Cuban said [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This isn’t about basketball, but I found it interesting, even if some might find it obvious: During the PED panel, Dr. Kim Blair, director of the MIT Center for Sports Innovation, said the NASA-engineered Speedo swimming suits that caused such an uproar at the ‘08 Olympics helped lesser swimmers more than good ones. “It had a leveling effect,” he said.&quot;

I feel the exact same principle applies to the recent rule changed that have led to small and quick point guards putting up numbers we haven&#039;t seen in years.  And on a wider level, it&#039;s helped the second tier players look like stars.  Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc would be great in any era.  Danny Granger would not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This isn’t about basketball, but I found it interesting, even if some might find it obvious: During the PED panel, Dr. Kim Blair, director of the MIT Center for Sports Innovation, said the NASA-engineered Speedo swimming suits that caused such an uproar at the ‘08 Olympics helped lesser swimmers more than good ones. “It had a leveling effect,” he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>I feel the exact same principle applies to the recent rule changed that have led to small and quick point guards putting up numbers we haven&#8217;t seen in years.  And on a wider level, it&#8217;s helped the second tier players look like stars.  Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc would be great in any era.  Danny Granger would not.</p>
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