Comments on: Brief Sunday Notebook: Ray’s Value, Doc’s Future http://celticshub.com/2010/06/27/brief-sunday-notebook-rays-value-docs-future/ Fri, 25 May 2012 05:00:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dslack http://celticshub.com/2010/06/27/brief-sunday-notebook-rays-value-docs-future/comment-page-1/#comment-78447 dslack Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:11:10 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=8946#comment-78447 @Dave -- I agree that that's a possibility, and I pointed out that possibility in the parenthetical part of my comment, except why do the teams with cap space have cap space? In general, they have tried very hard to create that cap space in order to be players in the free agent market. This is why I found it so surprising that Washington was willing to soak up Hinrich's contract. But anyway, I don't think that other GMs are as concerned about helping competition as you seem to think. I mean, Memphis gave LA Pau Gasol for free (Kwame + second round pick, plus late first round picks). Heck, even the Washington trade you mention is a good example of this -- What's scarier, the Celtics plus Luol Deng? Or the Bulls with Rose, Noah, LeBron, and Bosh? I think the latter is far scarier for the rest of the league, and yet Washington was totally willing to help make that happen. @Dave –
I agree that that’s a possibility, and I pointed out that possibility in the parenthetical part of my comment, except why do the teams with cap space have cap space? In general, they have tried very hard to create that cap space in order to be players in the free agent market. This is why I found it so surprising that Washington was willing to soak up Hinrich’s contract.

But anyway, I don’t think that other GMs are as concerned about helping competition as you seem to think. I mean, Memphis gave LA Pau Gasol for free (Kwame + second round pick, plus late first round picks). Heck, even the Washington trade you mention is a good example of this — What’s scarier, the Celtics plus Luol Deng? Or the Bulls with Rose, Noah, LeBron, and Bosh? I think the latter is far scarier for the rest of the league, and yet Washington was totally willing to help make that happen.

]]> By: Dave http://celticshub.com/2010/06/27/brief-sunday-notebook-rays-value-docs-future/comment-page-1/#comment-78390 Dave Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:07:00 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=8946#comment-78390 @dslack: Teams looking to create cap space need only find teams that have cap space and a desire to take on the talent that's costing said team too much money. They don't need Boston or Sheed's contract to do that. By example, Chicago didn't have any problem creating more cap space. All they had to do was be willing to dump Hinrich and their number one pick to Washington for nothing in return (useless future second rounder). Most teams would sooner do it that way then help the Eastern Conference Champs stay competitive by easing their financial woes so that they can acquire more talent. Bottom Line: Every other alternative will be exhausted by teams before they will lift a finger to do anything that would benefit the Celtics this free agent summer. The Celtics are going to have to do it all on their own. The Spurs have been the recipients of that same treatment for several seasons now. The Lakers will soon have their turn in the barrel too though their core players are younger than either the Spurs or the Celtics. @dslack: Teams looking to create cap space need only find teams that have cap space and a desire to take on the talent that’s costing said team too much money. They don’t need Boston or Sheed’s contract to do that.

By example, Chicago didn’t have any problem creating more cap space. All they had to do was be willing to dump Hinrich and their number one pick to Washington for nothing in return (useless future second rounder).

Most teams would sooner do it that way then help the Eastern Conference Champs stay competitive by easing their financial woes so that they can acquire more talent.

Bottom Line: Every other alternative will be exhausted by teams before they will lift a finger to do anything that would benefit the Celtics this free agent summer.

The Celtics are going to have to do it all on their own.

The Spurs have been the recipients of that same treatment for several seasons now.

The Lakers will soon have their turn in the barrel too though their core players are younger than either the Spurs or the Celtics.

]]> By: dslack http://celticshub.com/2010/06/27/brief-sunday-notebook-rays-value-docs-future/comment-page-1/#comment-78333 dslack Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:30:59 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=8946#comment-78333 Eh, I give Ray credit for D. But Tony definitely D'd Kobe up better than Ray or anyone else. Eh, I give Ray credit for D. But Tony definitely D’d Kobe up better than Ray or anyone else.

]]> By: complexity http://celticshub.com/2010/06/27/brief-sunday-notebook-rays-value-docs-future/comment-page-1/#comment-78327 complexity Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:04:48 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=8946#comment-78327 Dslack, I mentioned that. But nobody wants to give Ray any credit for D. And Kobe's ears were freaking buzzing at the end of game 7. Dslack, I mentioned that. But nobody wants to give Ray any credit for D. And Kobe’s ears were freaking buzzing at the end of game 7.

]]> By: dslack http://celticshub.com/2010/06/27/brief-sunday-notebook-rays-value-docs-future/comment-page-1/#comment-78309 dslack Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:07:01 +0000 http://celticshub.com/?p=8946#comment-78309 Tony Allen did limit Kobe to 25% shooting or so during the series. Turning Kobe into essentially a non-entity is worth a lot. Tony Allen did limit Kobe to 25% shooting or so during the series. Turning Kobe into essentially a non-entity is worth a lot.

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